Skinship  Tagged Articles RSS Feed | GameSkinny.com Skinship  RSS Feed on GameSkinny.com https://www.gameskinny.com/ en Launch Media Network Fire Emblem: Fates might actually be more sexual than the original Japanese release https://www.gameskinny.com/6wym3/fire-emblem-fates-might-actually-be-more-sexual-than-the-original-japanese-release https://www.gameskinny.com/6wym3/fire-emblem-fates-might-actually-be-more-sexual-than-the-original-japanese-release Wed, 10 Feb 2016 07:14:44 -0500 David Fisher

For anyone who has been following this story, Fire Emblem: Fates seems to be one of the most confusing games out there when it comes to what has been censored, or if anything has been censored at all. Just when we thought everything had been laid to rest in terms of the game's censorship and petting minigame, we just learned that even less content might have been removed than we thought.

With the review copies now in the hands of... well... reviewers, we now have a solid picture of what controversial content is still in the game. If you want just the general answer: almost nothing has been removed from the game.

EDIT (02/14/2016): Since the time of this publication, there has been an update on the "swimsuit situation". Rumors were flying about that they had also been removed from the game. However, these were quickly shot down by this video by RasouliPlays that confirms that they are still in the game.

The skinship minigame is still here!

At the heart of the Fire Emblem: Fates controversy has been the petting minigame. Only a few days ago I broke the news that players can still access the skinship ending dialogues. Today, we've received reports that the minigame is still accessible under certain situations, namely with the character the player decides to marry or characters you have an S-Rank support with.

According to the Gameranx article, players can access the minigame during the following scenarios:

"In one scenario, your wife or husband is sleeping, and you are prompted to rub their face to wake them up. If you jam the stylus, you can wake them up rudely and they will get angry at you.

In another scenario, your wife and husband has just come out of the bath and a lot of steam is coming out. You blow on the 3DS microphone to move the steam out of the way.

What about the original scenario, where you invite people into your house to flirt with you? No more petting is possible in this scenario, but you can scan their bodies as you talk to them."

Ryan Perreno, via Gameranx

That's right. The final verdict is that you can touch the person you marry in the game, just not anyone else. Apparently this was the original intent of the Japanese team before they expanded to having this feature with literally every character you met. If this is true, then think of the international release as a "definitive edition" of sorts, even if we are still technically getting less content.

So yeah... Anyone who is still upset that they can't pet their waifu/husbando? You can literally only pet your waifu husbando in the international release. Yay?

The Hot Spring/Bath House is still in

The one question everyone has had on their mind ever since the censorship fiasco began was if the Hot Spring was also censored in the international release. This was due to a number of reasons, namely the fact that the female characters wear bikinis while in them. This could be classified as revealing clothing to some, and some players were concerned that it would be removed as a result.

Thankfully, the above image shared with us by Kotaku reveals that the feature is still very much here. In fact, according to Patricia Hernandez's article, players can still strip all the clothing from their characters while in the accessory shop.

Looking at the above image, it seems safe to assume that the swimsuits and other risque attire will be left in the game. This is great news for gaming purists who want none other than a clean localization of the game in North America.

Another image (courtesy of Kotaku.com) shows that Camilla is just as suggestive of a character as ever, which should please fans.

Polygon jokes about the game being "more sexual"

Two staff members at Polygon have gone to Twitter with their own posts from the game. The first, Nick Robinson, jokes about Treehouse making the game more sexual than the original translations in the following tweet.

Meanwhile, Allegra Frank makes a personal joke about the earlier mentioned skinship feature where players blow into the microphone to cool off their spouse after a bath.

In the end, it seems like everything has worked out. I would once again like to stress the importance of waiting for a game's release before believing any rumors that sprout up on any news breaking service. Without flawless evidence, nothing should be believed, and this whole situation is a perfect example of it.

Now that the situation has been clarified once and for all, are you still considering not purchasing the game? Are you someone who regrets canceling their pre-order now? Are you surprised that the game is nearly intact after all? Leave your thoughts in the comments section below!

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Big news for Fire Emblem fans: "skinship" is still in the game! Sorta... https://www.gameskinny.com/5no35/big-news-for-fire-emblem-fans-skinship-is-still-in-the-game-sorta https://www.gameskinny.com/5no35/big-news-for-fire-emblem-fans-skinship-is-still-in-the-game-sorta Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:43:06 -0500 David Fisher

EDIT (10/02/2016): Review copies have disproven the original rumor. Read more here.

Good news, for everyone who was upset about the removal of the petting minigame in Fire Emblem Fates. Despite the Kotaku report stating that the petting game has been removed from Fire Emblem Fates, the assets are still being put to good use. In fact, the feature is unchanged from a superficial perspective. However, a big part of the minigame has been removed: the actual petting.

During a 2 hour stream of the game, Polygon captured the skinship feature's replacement in this 2 minute clip (below), demonstrating what the changes to the minigame actually are.

Instead of the usual petting minigame, the "invite ally" function now leads to a single character entering your room and talking to you with a brief Live 2D animation. These animations have been left completely untouched, and from what we can tell the dialogue is the same as the original Japanese version (minus the 4 minute petting sessions, and being dubbed in English). While I don't like being that guy (who am I kidding, I love being that guy) but I totally called this.

While some might still grieve the loss of their waifu/husbando petting simulator, at least they can rest assured that they will still be able to have an intimate conversation with them. The scene is still pretty cute, and I for one am relieved that I won't have to sprain my wrist trying to pet over 30 people in Revelation just to increase support ranks and get minor buffs.

What do you guys think of the change? Will the middle ground option done by Nintendo's American localization team satisfy you? Vote now on my official Twitter poll or leave your thoughts in the comments section below!

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Follow-up: "skinship" feature removed from Fire Emblem Fates, confirmed by IGN https://www.gameskinny.com/d28wp/follow-up-skinship-feature-removed-from-fire-emblem-fates-confirmed-by-ign https://www.gameskinny.com/d28wp/follow-up-skinship-feature-removed-from-fire-emblem-fates-confirmed-by-ign Sat, 30 Jan 2016 07:05:55 -0500 David Fisher

EDIT (10/02/2016): Review copies have disproven the original rumor. Read more here.

For those who are still wondering, the "skinship" petting minigame in Fire Emblem Fates has been removed. During its Nintendo Voice Chat segment on January 29th, IGN confirmed that the feature will not be coming to western shores.

The rumor of the skinship minigame's removal has been floating around for some time ever since the initial Kotaku reveal. Fans were in denial about the removal, insisting that Kotaku was not a reliable source for this information; at the time they were the only ones who had received word of this change. This denial quickly turned to anger and frustration as rumors spit back and forth about the game's file size being larger in the American release or that NoA representatives seemed to be getting their facts mixed up.

This anger soon turned to bargaining...

In a poll that I conducted over the last week, at least 29% are unwilling to purchase the game without the removed feature at least becoming free DLC in the future. Surprisingly, 4% are actually willing to see the "skinship" feature return as paid DLC. Now that IGN has broke the news to fans that the feature will not - beyond a reasonable doubt - be in the game, maybe it's time fans move past this and accept it.

This news will be heartbreaking to some; however, the IGN podcast does offer some good news in the video below (start @ 52:23).

Fans are undoubtedly still upset that the feature has been removed from the game, but at least they have closure. Not only that, but according to IGN the game will still have the ability to invite characters into the My Room part of the game. While players will be unable to touch the characters, the IGN playtesters were told by Nintendo that the benefits the feature gave are still there in some form. IGN wasn't told exactly how this will be replaced, but fans can rest assured that they can still get the bonuses from the minigame in a different way.

The Nintendo Voice Chat cast also went into discussion about the game itself, and the host made one very important point: the game itself is still very sound. All three paths in the game are well written, and the choices you make are - in his words - "gut wrenching," as any path you choose has its painful moments. The game is also described as a solid member of the Fire Emblem series, so anyone who is a fan of the games so far will feel right at home.

Has your stance changed, RR-sama?

I've had some time to think about this since my original article post on the 27th. In that article, I made the following comments about the removal:

"As someone who works on a pragmatic level whenever possible, I have to say that this hardly affects my enjoyment of the game. I pre-ordered the Fire Emblem: Fates Collector's Edition to play Fire Emblem, not Medieval Waifu Simulator 2016. As such, the changes don't really affect me."

 

I went on on to rant about how the removal of this feature does cause some issues in terms of gameplay difficulty, primarily due to the buffs/affinity raises being removed. This makes Conquest in particular a much more difficult game. However, the latest news has shifted my viewpoint - if only slightly.

So where do you stand now, RR-sama?

If we do, in fact, have a replacement for this feature I am 100% okay with this. The fact that the international version of the game still remains several-hundred MB larger than the original Japanese versions means we're getting something, we just don't know what yet.

Maybe, as some have suggested, we will be getting dual-audio, in which case fans will have something to rejoice over. Maybe the models used in the skinship minigame will be put to use in a more Western audience friendly version? Maybe we'll have something completely new? I'm guessing they'll just leave it in, minus the petting or something like that.

In any case, Fire Emblem Fates still has plenty of content that Fire Emblem Awakening didn't, and we seem to be getting something as consolation for the removal. As long as that's true it's alright with me...not preferable, but alright nonetheless.

Don't think I've gone soft, though. If it turns out that upon opening my copy of Fire Emblem Fates that there is literally no replacement or consolation for the removal of this feature, your beloved RR-sama will be there to set the world on fire as always!

What do you think about this news now that the dust has settled? Has your opinion changed on whether or not you will buy the game? Will you wait for the RR-sama review before buying the game? Leave your thoughts in the comments section below!

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Fans are losing their minds over all the "censored" content in Fire Emblem: Fates https://www.gameskinny.com/g7glk/fans-are-losing-their-minds-over-all-the-censored-content-in-fire-emblem-fates https://www.gameskinny.com/g7glk/fans-are-losing-their-minds-over-all-the-censored-content-in-fire-emblem-fates Wed, 27 Jan 2016 09:01:46 -0500 David Fisher

EDIT (10/02/2016): Review copies have disproven the original rumor. Read more here.

Warning! This article deals with numerous NSFW situations, potential spoilers, and coarse language. Continue reading at your own discretion.

The Western release of Fire Emblem: Fates seems to only expand its controversy by the day. While it started with a rampage of misinformation regarding over supposedly homophobic scenes, just yesterday it expanded to the removal of the "skinship face petting" minigame. Now fans of the series are slowly growing in paranoia over what else might be removed on Twitter and Reddit.

#GamerGate enters the fray!

Like moths to a flame, it didn't take long for #GamerGate to get involved with the controversy. In what #GamerGate supporters are calling a "perfect example of SJW work gone horribly wrong", various international Nintendo groups responsible for local releases of the game are starting to censor material left, right, and center. 

Retrieved from the /r/KotakuinAction subreddit, GamerGate has been following censorship in the Italian version where gay marriage has been removed in an effort to "localize" the game. Meanwhile, other GamerGate supporters are hounding after the removal of the "petting" minigame, making it out to be the first in a series of supposed "SJW" victories as Nintendo of America claims - once again - that this was done in an effort to localize the game.

Many GamerGate supporters are starting to question just how much of the game is going to remain intact. Conversations are being changed from the source text, otherwise fine names are being changed, portions of the game are facing the axe, and it seems as though very little of the advertised unique features of this entry in the series are left over. 

The Twitterverse's sword-hand is twitching!

Twitter hasn't been a safe haven for Nintendo either. In almost every single post found on the Nintendo of America Twitter page features an endless stream of angry fans protesting the removal of the "skinship" feature. #Nintendo isn't a safe haven either as the more vocal groups have started posting content that ranges from meme-worthy comics to rants, and even some potentially offensive images.

Some of the following content may be considered offensive. Once again, continue at your own discretion!

If you think that this is bad, wait until you see the dedicated hashtag. Known as #fireemblempetting, the hashtag has seen more than its fair share of use in the last few days. Unlike the Nintendo of America Twitter page, or the Reddit pages on either /r/KotakuinAction or /r/FireEmblem, the discussion on #fireemblempetting is a little more mature. Here are some examples of what you can expect by searching for #fireemblempetting tweets.

The worst part of all this? Nintendo is still silent.

That's right. Despite all of the public outcry for all the censored content, it's business as usual for Nintendo of America. There have been no signs of secondary confirmation of the removal of the skinship minigame by Nintendo of America or any news source other than Kotaku. In fact, the only source to claim to have spoken to Nintendo about the removal is Polygon, and - as this GameFAQs user explains - even that source is sketchy since it is quite literally looks like a plagiarized claim.

Want proof? Check out these quotes pulled directly from both the Polygon and Kotaku articles:

"You might have heard somewhat misinterpreted or exaggerated information about the Japanese original game," a representative for Nintendo told Polygon, "but even in the Japanese original version, we have not included any features which are considered inappropriate in Japan.

"Having said that, however, making changes are not unusual when we localize games, and we have indeed made changes in these games."

Allegra Frank via Polygon

And meanwhile...

“Yes, that is the case [that petting isn’t in the English version]. You might have heard somewhat misinterpreted or exaggerated information about the Japanese original game, but even in the Japanese original version, we have not included any features which are considered inappropriate in Japan.”

Nathan Grayson via Kotaku

Notice anything eerily similar about the quotes? Everyone has. In fact, it almost appears as though someone took a thesaurus to one of the quotes to form the other. This has understandably created a great deal of confusion among readers and followers of the controversy, fans running in various directions in an attempt to cling to any hope that the articles are spreading false rumors.

Editor's note: Many times, PR reps will give the same canned responses to several outlets.

What is particularly unsettling about either quote from "a Nintendo representative" is that neither one directly states that the petting mechanic has been removed. Instead, the quotes rather imply it throughout the article or have the "petting" game's mention inserted into the quote with the infamous [bracket] quotes.

So what now?

Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what to tell readers when it comes to this. If you really want to believe that you are making a difference you can join any of these petitions found on Change.org:

Bring back skinship in Fire Emblem Fates

Do Not Censor The Skin Ship "Petting" Mini-Game In Fire Emblem Fates

Do not censor Fire Emblem: Fates for it's worldwide release

Otherwise, there is very little fans can do at this point other than rant on either Twitter or other Nintendo pages. With the game's release only a several weeks away it seems unlikely that anything will change. Physical copies have likely printed already, and the game is already rated by ESRB at this point. If anything, the numerous angry fans or low sales will force Nintendo of America to rethink their decisions, after which we might have a chance of the mode returning as free DLC or software update.

What do you think, RR-sama? You are Mr. Controversy!

As someone who works on a pragmatic level whenever possible, I have to say that this hardly affects my enjoyment of the game. I pre-ordered the Fire Emblem: Fates Collector's Edition to play Fire Emblem, not Medieval Waifu Simulator 2016. As such, the changes don't really affect me.

At least, that was my stance at first...

Turns out that the skinship feature actually has quite an effect on gameplay, particularly for players interested in the Conquest version of the game. Successful skinship runs result in buffs in the next mission, as well as increased affinity/support levels. This can make Conquest much more difficult since you already have a limited time to increase your support levels with characters, not to mention that you are typically underpowered to begin with on each map.

Not only that, but several characters say interesting things outside of the usual 'sensual' stuff. For example, one character reveals her real name through skinship.

Lastly, while I'm not a particular fan of the fan service, I do enjoy the fact that various characters show their more sensitive sides during skinship scenes. They also show a lot of their individuality through these scenes as well. All that aside, who wouldn't want to be that character from an anime that pulls of the "okay, you totally like me" situation with a tsundere girl/guy?

In the end, I'm stuck having paid full price for a game that is a chopped up version of the old one. I'm not as angry as some fans, but I certainly feel cheated to an extent, despite playing the game for the story and strategy elements.

But enough about me. What do you guys think about the absurd levels of cut content? Are you going to run over to Twitter to rant? Want to argue for the removal instead? Leave your thoughts in the comments section below!

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