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First Ever Case of Kickstarter Fraud Against Atlius Management

The Attorney General of Washington state files the first suit against a Kickstarter company for fraud.

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For the first time, a company on Kickstarter has been sued for fraud. The suit is against Altius Management, a company promising a dark and brooding limited print run of playing cards and poker chips designed by a Serbian artist. The project was successfully backed on Halloween of 2012, and it even beat their goal of $15,000 with more than $25,000.

This could affect the Kickstarter community significantly, considering that it has helped expand tabletop gaming through some of the largest projects ever on Kickstarter. The website already changed their policies last year to show a "risk and challenges" breakdown, indicating the projects chance of failure, even if funding succeeds.

Plenty of projects have failed to deliver with completion dates getting pushed back into the unknown. The Code Hero and Robotech RPG Tactics projects are just a few examples. The problem with Altius is the failure to update where the project stands or refund the contributors their money.

Could we see Kickstarter enact more changes to protect the contributors and give more responsibilities to deliver?

Originally Published May. 7th 2014

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  • 57
    Rothalack 7 months ago
    Staff Editor
    What was fraudulent about it? Did they just not send out the completed decks? Did they just pocket the money and run?
  • 36
    Landon Sommer 7 months ago
    Columnist
    So far, I've just seen that they never delivered. I'll investigate more...
  • 57
    Rothalack 7 months ago
    Staff Editor
    That's what I'm seeing now, that they just didn't deliver. I am interested as well to see how you can really sue. I have a feeling the kickstarter policy will guard the company a bit. Maybe they can just enforce the refund.
  • 60
    GabrielKross 7 months ago
    Featured Columnist
    They aren't suing Kickstarter from what I understand, just the actual company tnat didn't deliver. If there is a suit it will likely be a civil claims suit (I think that's what it's called) and the damages would likely just be the same as an enforced refund.
  • 36
    Landon Sommer 7 months ago
    Columnist
    I've heard the rewards could be close to $2,000/ person. I'll have to see if I can find that.
  • 60
    GabrielKross 7 months ago
    Featured Columnist
    If they try to get more out of the law suit then they put in then this is a farce and a judge/jury shouldn't let it happen.
  • 57
    Rothalack 7 months ago
    Staff Editor
    Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting that Kickstarter would get sued. I was just saying the Kickstarter policy, I'm thinking, will protect the company in some way. We'll see though.
  • 60
    GabrielKross 7 months ago
    Featured Columnist
    Honestly I don't feel this is something Kickstarter should change it's policies for. You've already stated the company is being sued, there is literally nothing more that can be done within the scope of legal action. There is no way to tell if a company will make good on their word before hand That's part of the risk you take when pledging money. Like the boardgame The Doom That Came To Atlantic City, that game wasn't even the fault of the creators, but the publishing company.
  • 36
    Landon Sommer 7 months ago
    Columnist
    I agree. I don't think they should have to, but they strike me as preemptive and by association, this stuff could make them look bad even when it's not their fault.
  • 60
    Venisia Gonzalez 7 months ago
    Featured Columnist
    I have to agree with you as well here Gary.